Game ID: 22300258
Los Angeles Lakers @ Detroit Pistons
Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 7:00 PM ET
Little Caesars Arena, Detroit, MI
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Final
DET 24 24 28 31 107LAL 38 27 36 32 133
DET vs LAL ScoutingDET vs LAL Scouting
Welcome to the scouting desk. The coffee is cold, the film is play-by-play, and somebody has to explain what happened.
Every game has a hinge — a stretch where it was decided, usually while everyone was watching something else. Start where the evidence lives: the Lineups' face-offs say which five actually won their minutes; the Possessions ledger says who ran ahead of the night's own pace; the Shot Chart says where the points really came from, which is rarely where the highlights were. When all three agree, that is the story. When they don't — that is why this desk has a chair.
DET availability going into 11/19 · 1 day's restOUT Duren missed 3 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Livers missed 2 since 11/14, out tonight
OUT Rhoden missed 3 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 6 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Ivey back 11/12 after 4, 20 min since (71% of 29)
BACK Burks back 11/12 after 6, 23 min since (108% of 21)
BACK Umude back 11/17 after 2, 17 min since (135% of 13)
NEW Thompson 25 to 31 min over the last 5
NEW Knox II 18 to 28 min over the last 3
DET availability going into 11/20 · back-to-backOUT Duren missed 4 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Livers missed 3 since 11/14, returns tonight: 23 min (112% of 20)
OUT Rhoden missed 4 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 7 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Ivey back 11/12 after 4, 22 min since (77% of 29)
BACK Burks back 11/12 after 6, 22 min since (108% of 21)
BACK Umude back 11/17 after 2, 21 min since (167% of 13)
NEW Knox II 18 to 27 min over the last 4
DET availability going into 11/24 · 3 days' restOUT Duren missed 5 since 11/12, returns tonight: 29 min (100% of 29)
OUT Rhoden missed 5 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 8 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Ivey back 11/12 after 4, 24 min since (83% of 29)
BACK Burks back 11/12 after 6, 21 min since (102% of 21)
BACK Livers back 11/20 after 3, 23 min since (112% of 20)
BACK Umude back 11/17 after 2, 20 min since (159% of 13)
NEW Knox II 18 to 27 min over the last 4
DET availability going into 11/27 · 2 days' restOUT Knox II missed 2 since 11/20, out tonight
OUT Rhoden missed 6 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 9 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Duren back 11/24 after 5, 29 min since (100% of 29)
BACK Livers back 11/20 after 3, 24 min since (120% of 20)
BACK Umude back 11/17 after 2, 17 min since (135% of 13)
DET availability going into 11/29 · 1 day's restOUT Knox II missed 3 since 11/20, returns tonight: 6 min (33% of 18)
OUT Rhoden missed 7 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 10 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Duren back 11/24 after 5, 31 min since (107% of 29)
BACK Livers back 11/20 after 3, 24 min since (118% of 20)
BACK Umude back 11/17 after 2, 14 min since (112% of 13)
DET availability going into 11/30 · back-to-backOUT Rhoden missed 8 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 11 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Duren back 11/24 after 5, 27 min since (92% of 29)
BACK Livers back 11/20 after 3, 24 min since (115% of 20)
BACK Knox II back 11/29 after 3, 6 min since (33% of 18)
DET availability going into 12/02 · 1 day's restOUT Rhoden missed 9 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 12 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Duren back 11/24 after 5, 28 min since (97% of 29)
BACK Livers back 11/20 after 3, 24 min since (119% of 20)
BACK Knox II back 11/29 after 3, 7 min since (40% of 18)
DET availability going into 12/06 · 3 days' restOUT Wiseman missed 2 since 11/30, returns tonight: 8 min (46% of 17)
OUT Rhoden missed 10 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 13 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Duren back 11/24 after 5, 29 min since (98% of 29)
BACK Knox II back 11/29 after 3, 7 min since (40% of 18)
DET availability going into 12/08 · 1 day's restOUT Knox II missed 2 since 12/02, returns tonight: 6 min (30% of 18)
OUT Rhoden missed 11 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Umude missed 2 since 12/02, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 14 since 11/06, returns tonight: 4 min (34% of 11)
BACK Wiseman back 12/06 after 2, 8 min since (46% of 17)
LAL availability going into 11/21 · 1 day's restOUT Vincent missed 10 since 11/01, out tonight
NEW Reddish 20 to 33 min over the last 5
LAL availability going into 11/22 · back-to-backOUT Vanderbilt missed 2 since 11/19, out tonight
OUT Vincent missed 11 since 11/01, out tonight
NEW Reddish 20 to 26 min over the last 5
LAL availability going into 11/25 · 2 days' restOUT Vanderbilt missed 3 since 11/19, out tonight
OUT Vincent missed 12 since 11/01, out tonight
NEW Reddish 20 to 27 min over the last 4
LAL availability going into 11/27 · 1 day's restOUT Reddish missed 2 since 11/22, out tonight
OUT Vanderbilt missed 4 since 11/19, out tonight
OUT Vincent missed 13 since 11/01, out tonight
NEW Christie 14 to 21 min over the last 4
LAL availability going into 11/29 · 1 day's restOUT Hachimura missed 2 since 11/25, out tonight
OUT Reddish missed 3 since 11/22, returns tonight: 20 min (95% of 20)
OUT Vanderbilt missed 5 since 11/19, out tonight
OUT Vincent missed 14 since 11/01, out tonight
NEW Christie 14 to 27 min over the last 4
LAL availability going into 11/30 · back-to-backOUT Hachimura missed 3 since 11/25, out tonight
OUT Vanderbilt missed 6 since 11/19, out tonight
OUT Vincent missed 15 since 11/01, out tonight
BACK Reddish back 11/29 after 3, 20 min since (95% of 20)
NEW Christie 14 to 26 min over the last 5
LAL availability going into 12/02 · 1 day's restOUT Hachimura missed 4 since 11/25, out tonight
OUT Vanderbilt missed 7 since 11/19, returns tonight: 14 min (68% of 20)
OUT Vincent missed 16 since 11/01, out tonight
BACK Reddish back 11/29 after 3, 20 min since (95% of 20)
NEW Christie 14 to 25 min over the last 5
LAL availability going into 12/05 · 2 days' restOUT Hachimura missed 5 since 11/25, returns tonight: 21 min (79% of 27)
OUT Vincent missed 17 since 11/01, out tonight
BACK Reddish back 11/29 after 3, 22 min since (107% of 20)
BACK Vanderbilt back 12/02 after 7, 14 min since (68% of 20)
NEW Christie 14 to 26 min over the last 5
LAL availability going into 12/07 · 1 day's restOUT Vincent missed 18 since 11/01, out tonight
BACK Hachimura back 12/05 after 5, 21 min since (79% of 27)
BACK Reddish back 11/29 after 3, 25 min since (120% of 20)
BACK Vanderbilt back 12/02 after 7, 14 min since (72% of 20)
NEW Christie 14 to 21 min over the last 5
I Know — the desk, before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 107 a night and allowing 124, shooting 45 percent and 29 from three, 24 free throws a game; Cunningham at 24 and Ivey at 15 a game. That is 5 straight losses. Without Knox II (3 straight). One day's rest. The Lakers come in 3-2 over their last five, scoring 110 a night and allowing 112, shooting 50 percent and 31 from three, 22 free throws a game; James at 24 and Davis at 22 a game. Without Hachimura (2 straight), Reddish (3 straight), Vanderbilt (5 straight). One day's rest.
So: The Lakers win, on the road, and the game turns on the defense, the Lakers allowing 112 a night to Detroit's 124. Call it the Lakers 115, Detroit 112, Detroit keeping it close.
11/19 @ TOR 113-142 — DET notes
DET lost 113-142. DET shot 47% (39 of 83) to TOR's 54%, 9 of 26 from three, and went to the line 35 times to TOR's 29 — 26 points from the stripe to their 18. DET turned it over 17 times to TOR's 7, and TOR turned those into 10 steals. Umude led with 19 (5 of 6, 2 of 3 from three, 7 of 8 at the line); Cunningham added 18, Wiseman 15. Q4 was theirs, 41-38, the deficit cut from 32 to 29, but the other 3 periods went 104-72 against them. Burks's -29 in 22 minutes was the worst on the floor.
11/20 vs DEN 103-107 — DET notes
DET lost 103-107. DET shot 44% (36 of 81) to DEN's 46%, 7 of 21 from three. Cunningham led with 27 (7 of 17, 2 of 4 from three, 11 of 11 at the line); Bagley III added 18, Ivey 17. Q2 was theirs, 32-29, the deficit cut from 4 to 1, but the other 3 periods went 78-71 against them. Burks's -13 in 17 minutes was the worst on the floor.
11/24 @ IND 113-136 — DET notes
DET lost 113-136. DET shot 48% (43 of 90) to IND's 48%, 7 of 18 from three. DET turned it over 14 times to IND's 8. Cunningham led with 31 (10 of 26, 2 of 4 from three, 9 of 9 at the line); Ivey added 25, Duren 13. Q2 was theirs, 37-28, turning a 7-point deficit into a 2-point lead, but the other 3 periods went 108-76 against them. Hayes's -25 in 17 minutes was the worst on the floor.
11/27 vs WAS 107-126 — DET notes
DET lost 107-126. DET took 13 more shots (102 to 89), fed by 18 offensive rebounds, but shot 42% to WAS's 51%, 8 of 38 from three, and got to the line 19 times to WAS's 28. Cunningham led with 26 (10 of 22, 2 of 7 from three); Thompson added 16, Ivey 15. Q2 was theirs, 27-26, the deficit cut from 4 to 3, but the other 3 periods went 100-80 against them. Livers's -26 in 23 minutes was the worst on the floor.
11/29 vs LAL 107-133 — DET notes
DET lost 107-133. DET took 9 more shots (97 to 88), fed by 10 offensive rebounds, but shot 41% to LAL's 51%, 15 of 36 from three, and got to the line 14 times to LAL's 38. The glass went 39-49 against them. Cunningham led with 15 (6 of 15, 2 of 4 from three); Livers added 14, Stewart 12. Q4 was theirs, 31-32, but the other 3 periods went 101-76 against them. Cunningham's -33 in 23 minutes was the worst on the floor.
11/30 @ NYK — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
New York comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 110 a night and allowing 106, shooting 45 percent and 36 from three, 25 free throws a game; Brunson at 26 and Randle at 22 a game. It has won the glass by 5 a night. One day's rest. Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 109 a night and allowing 129, shooting 44 percent and 33 from three, 24 free throws a game; Cunningham at 23 and Ivey at 15 a game. That is 5 straight losses. Second night of a back-to-back.
So: New York wins, and the game turns on the defense, New York allowing 106 a night to Detroit's 129 and the glass, where New York has been plus-5 a night and Detroit minus-2. Call it New York 119, Detroit 105, New York by 14.
12/02 vs CLE — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 108 a night and allowing 124, shooting 45 percent and 35 from three, 20 free throws a game; Cunningham at 26 and Ivey at 14 a game. That is 5 straight losses. One day's rest. Cleveland comes in 2-3 over its last five, scoring 108 a night and allowing 112, shooting 47 percent and 34 from three, 14 free throws a game; Mitchell at 24 and Eva. Mobley at 16 a game. Without Wade (5 straight), Merrill (4 straight). One day's rest.
So: Cleveland wins, on the road, and the game turns on the defense, Cleveland allowing 112 a night to Detroit's 124 and the line, where Detroit takes 20 free throws a game to Cleveland's 14. Call it Cleveland 114, Detroit 112, Detroit keeping it close.
12/06 vs MEM — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 108 a night and allowing 125, shooting 46 percent and 34 from three, 19 free throws a game; Cunningham at 25 and Ivey at 12 a game. That is 5 straight losses. Without Wiseman (2 straight). 3 days' rest. Memphis comes in 2-3 over its last five, scoring 102 a night and allowing 106, shooting 46 percent and 30 from three, 16 free throws a game; Bane at 19 and Jackson Jr. at 18 a game. Without Morant (19 straight), Smart (8 straight), Jackson (4 straight). 3 days' rest.
So: Memphis wins, on the road, and the game turns on the defense, Memphis allowing 106 a night to Detroit's 125. Call it Memphis 111, Detroit 110, Detroit keeping it close.
12/08 @ ORL — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Orlando comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 122 a night and allowing 122, shooting 51 percent and 36 from three, 31 free throws a game; F. Wagner at 25 and Banchero at 24 a game. Without Carter Jr. (16 straight), Fultz (13 straight), Isaac (2 straight). One day's rest. Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 106 a night and allowing 121, shooting 45 percent and 33 from three, 16 free throws a game; Cunningham at 22 and Duren at 12 a game. That is 5 straight losses. Without Knox II (2 straight). One day's rest.
So: Orlando wins, and the game turns on the line, where Orlando takes 31 free throws a game to Detroit's 16. Call it Orlando 120, Detroit 111.
11/21 vs UTA 131-99 — LAL notes
LAL won 131-99. LAL shot 57% (49 of 86) to UTA's 39%, 11 of 29 from three, and went to the line 27 times to UTA's 16 — 22 points from the stripe to their 12. The glass went 52-42 for them. Davis led with 26 (11 of 14); Russell added 20, Reaves 19. The hinge was Q1, 32-17: from level to 15 ahead, and the lead reached 39. Davis was the night's best plus/minus at +34.
11/22 vs DAL 101-104 — LAL notes
LAL lost 101-104. LAL shot 46% (39 of 84) to DAL's 40%, 11 of 29 from three. LAL turned it over 11 times to DAL's 4. James led with 26 (9 of 19, 4 of 9 from three, 4 of 7 at the line); Reaves added 17, Russell 15. Q4 was theirs, 30-13, the deficit cut from 20 to 3, but the other 3 periods went 91-71 against them. Christie's -19 in 23 minutes was the worst on the floor.
11/25 @ CLE 121-115 — LAL notes
LAL won 121-115. LAL shot 52% (47 of 90) to CLE's 47%, 9 of 27 from three. Davis led with 32 (13 of 20, 6 of 7 at the line); James added 22, Reaves 15. The hinge was Q4, 28-21: LAL came in trailing by 1 and left it ahead by 6. LAL trailed 70-71 at the half and won the second half 51-44. Hayes was the night's best plus/minus at +14.
11/27 @ PHI 94-138 — LAL notes
LAL lost 94-138. LAL shot 47% (39 of 83) to PHI's 51%, 7 of 28 from three, and got to the line 13 times to PHI's 26. LAL turned it over 17 times to PHI's 5, and PHI turned those into 11 steals. The glass went 32-48 against them. James led with 18 (8 of 12); Davis added 17, Reaves 12. Q2 was theirs, 34-36, but the other 3 periods went 102-60 against them. Hayes's -33 in 19 minutes was the worst on the floor.
11/29 @ DET 133-107 — LAL notes
LAL won 133-107. LAL shot 51% (45 of 88) to DET's 41%, 12 of 34 from three, and went to the line 38 times to DET's 14 — 31 points from the stripe to their 12. The glass went 49-39 for them. Russell led with 35 (13 of 17, 5 of 7 from three); Davis added 28, James 25. The hinge was Q1, 38-24: from level to 14 ahead, and the lead reached 33. Russell was the night's best plus/minus at +31.
11/30 @ OKC — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
OKC comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 121 a night and allowing 110, shooting 49 percent and 42 from three, 24 free throws a game; Gilgeous-Alexander at 34 and Holmgren at 24 a game. One day's rest. The Lakers come in 3-2 over their last five, scoring 116 a night and allowing 113, shooting 51 percent and 34 from three, 24 free throws a game; Davis at 23 and James at 22 a game. Without Hachimura (3 straight), Vanderbilt (6 straight), Vincent (15 straight). Second night of a back-to-back.
So: OKC wins, and the game turns on the arc, OKC at 42 percent from three to the Lakers' 34 and the turnovers, the Lakers giving it away 14 times a game to OKC's 10. Call it OKC 118, the Lakers 111.
12/02 vs HOU — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
The Lakers come in 2-3 over their last five, scoring 112 a night and allowing 119, shooting 48 percent and 33 from three, 25 free throws a game; Davis at 24 and James at 22 a game. Without Hachimura (4 straight), Vanderbilt (7 straight), Vincent (16 straight). One day's rest. Houston comes in 2-3 over its last five, scoring 114 a night and allowing 111, shooting 48 percent and 34 from three, 20 free throws a game; Sengun at 23 and Ja. Green at 23 a game. Without Thompson (12 straight). 2 days' rest.
So: Houston wins, on the road, and the game turns on the turnovers, the Lakers giving it away 14 times a game to Houston's 10 and the defense, Houston allowing 111 a night to the Lakers' 119. Call it Houston 113, the Lakers 112, the Lakers keeping it close.
12/05 vs PHX — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
The Lakers come in 3-2 over their last five, scoring 113 a night and allowing 118, shooting 48 percent and 32 from three, 26 free throws a game; Davis at 27 and James at 20 a game. Without Hachimura (5 straight), Vincent (17 straight). 2 days' rest. Phoenix comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 112 a night and allowing 108, shooting 45 percent and 35 from three, 28 free throws a game; Durant at 29 and Booker at 28 a game. It has won the glass by 6 a night. Without Beal (10 straight). 2 days' rest.
So: Phoenix wins, on the road, and the game turns on the glass, where Phoenix has been plus-6 a night and the Lakers minus-2 and the defense, Phoenix allowing 108 a night to the Lakers' 118. Call it Phoenix 114, the Lakers 113, the Lakers keeping it close.
12/07 vs NOP — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
The Lakers come in 3-2 over their last five, scoring 110 a night and allowing 116, shooting 45 percent and 31 from three, 27 free throws a game; Davis at 26 and James at 22 a game. Without Vincent (18 straight). One day's rest. New Orleans comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 120 a night and allowing 115, shooting 51 percent and 35 from three, 29 free throws a game; Williamson at 22 and Ingram at 21 a game. It has won the glass by 4 a night. Without Nance Jr. (4 straight). 2 days' rest.
So: New Orleans wins, on the road, and the game turns on the glass, where New Orleans has been plus-4 a night and the Lakers minus-4 and the arc, New Orleans at 35 percent from three to the Lakers' 31. Call it New Orleans 115, the Lakers 114, the Lakers keeping it close.
Who is who
the initials in the Players column
DETAB A. Burks
AT A. Thompson
CC C. Cunningham
IL I. Livers
IS I. Stewart
JD J. Duren
JI J. Ivey
JW J. Wiseman
KH K. Hayes
KK K. Knox II
MB M. Bagley III
MS M. Sasser
SU S. Umude
LALAD A. Davis
AF A. Fudge
AR A. Reaves
CR C. Reddish
CW C. Wood
DH D. Hodge
DR D. Russell
JH J. Hayes
JH J. Hood-Schifino
LJ L. James
MC M. Christie
ML M. Lewis
TP T. Prince
DET/LAL the team itself, not a player
-- the feed named nobody
What
What happened
the codes in the Events column
M2 / M3 made 2 / made 3
X2 / X3 missed 2 / missed 3
FT / X1 free throw made / missed
AST assist
OR / DR offensive / defensive rebound
STL steal
BLK block
TO turnover
FL foul
OF offensive foul — ends the possession
VIOL violation
JUMP jump ball
TM timeout
IR instant replay
HE heave at the buzzer, filed to the team
END the clock ran out, ball in hand
Where
Where a shot came from
the middle field of M3.LW.25
RM at the rim inside 4 ft
RC right corner
RW right wing
SO straight on
LW left wing
LC left corner
M3.LW.25 made 3, left wing, 25 ft
X2.RM.01 missed 2, at the rim, 1 ft
When
When it happened
the Offset column
one number per event, in the Events order:
whole seconds from the start of the
possession to that event
Events FL X3.RC.23 OR M2.RM.01
Offset 0 18 22 24
the foul opens the possession at 0s;
the putback ends it at 24s, which is
the possession's own Dur
Lakers bounce back to rout Detroit, handing Pistons team-record 15th straight loss
DETROIT -- — LeBron James , coming off a career-high 44-point loss at Philadelphia, and his Los Angeles Lakers teammates were very loose during pregame warmups.
Perhaps they sensed it would be an easy night to bounce back.
And, they were right.
D'Angelo Russell scored a season-high 35 points, Anthony Davis had 28 and James 25 to help Los Angeles beat Detroit 133-107 on Wednesday night for the Pistons' franchise-record 15th straight loss.
Lakers coach Darvin Ham could see and hear that James was ready to lead the way before the game even started.
“He understands the energy he gives off,” Ham said.
James was smiling and joking with teammates while getting shots off in warmups, but simply shrugged off the observation.
“I’m pretty much always like that,” he said. “I have a lot of energy to give.”
The Lakers led 38-24 after the opening quarter, shooting 60% to Detroit's 36%.
Even though there were three quarters left, the outcome seemed certain against an offensively challenged team that doesn't play stingy defense and is a league-worst 2-16.
“This group struggles with adversity,” Pistons coach Monty Williams said.
The Pistons have had a lot of it.
Detroit broke the franchise record after sharing it with three teams that had 14-game skids during the 2021-22, 1993-94 and 1979-80 seasons.
“My job is to help our guys fight through this," said Williams, who is in his first season after leading Phoenix and New Orleans. "I told our guys, one way you gain this respect in this game and in life is when you’re going through a tough time, and you hang in there.”
Detroit’s Cade Cunningham had 15 points, reserve Isaiah Livers scored 14, Isaiah Stewart had 12 points and rookie Ausar Thompson added 12 points.
The Pistons' problems started on defense.
“The resistance in the pick-and-roll coverage, the resistance to start the game just wasn’t there against D’Angelo," Williams said.
James said “a lot” had to change Monday night after Los Angeles' 138-94 loss to the 76ers in the most-lopsided loss of his career, and it was facing the right opponent to rebound against.
“We responded well," James said. "We played a lot better.”
The Lakers started strong with Russell and Davis both scoring in double figures in the first quarter and despite having a huge lead for much of the game, they did not coast with a comfortable cushion.
“D’Lo and AD got us started out with the hot streak they had in the first quarter, and we all picked it up off of that," James said.
Los Angeles' top three scorers did more than make shots. Russell had nine assists, Davis grabbed 16 rebounds and James had eight rebounds and four assists.
Christian Wood had 12 points and rookie Jalen Hood-Schifino , who didn't score in his NBA debut in the previous game, scored 10 points.
Since the Pistons improved to 2-1 on Oct. 28, they have not won a game with a young team that was expected to improve after winning an NBA-low 17 games last season.
“We've got to get the feeling we had the first week of the season,” Williams said.