Game ID: 22301217
Detroit Pistons @ Orlando Magic
Friday, December 8, 2023 at 7:00 PM ET
Amway Center, Orlando, FL
Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4 Final
ORL 28 30 35 30 123DET 23 21 24 23 91
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Welcome to the scouting desk. The coffee is cold, the film is play-by-play, and somebody has to explain what happened.
Every game has a hinge — a stretch where it was decided, usually while everyone was watching something else. Start where the evidence lives: the Lineups' face-offs say which five actually won their minutes; the Possessions ledger says who ran ahead of the night's own pace; the Shot Chart says where the points really came from, which is rarely where the highlights were. When all three agree, that is the story. When they don't — that is why this desk has a chair.
ORL availability going into 11/29 · 2 days' restOUT Carter Jr. missed 12 since 11/04, out tonight
OUT Fultz missed 9 since 11/11, out tonight
NEW Anthony 22 to 29 min over the last 5
NEW Bitadze 15 to 25 min over the last 5
ORL availability going into 12/01 · 1 day's restOUT Carter Jr. missed 13 since 11/04, out tonight
OUT Fultz missed 10 since 11/11, out tonight
OUT Isaac missed 2 since 11/26, returns tonight: 7 min (42% of 16)
NEW Anthony 22 to 29 min over the last 5
NEW Bitadze 15 to 25 min over the last 5
ORL availability going into 12/02 · back-to-backOUT Carter Jr. missed 14 since 11/04, out tonight
OUT Fultz missed 11 since 11/11, out tonight
BACK Isaac back 12/01 after 2, 7 min since (42% of 16)
NEW Bitadze 15 to 24 min over the last 5
ORL availability going into 12/06 · 3 days' restOUT Carter Jr. missed 15 since 11/04, out tonight
OUT Fultz missed 12 since 11/11, out tonight
BACK Isaac back 12/01 after 2, 7 min since (42% of 16)
NEW Anthony 22 to 27 min over the last 5
NEW Bitadze 15 to 20 min over the last 5
ORL availability going into 12/08 · 1 day's restOUT Carter Jr. missed 16 since 11/04, out tonight
OUT Fultz missed 13 since 11/11, out tonight
OUT Isaac missed 2 since 12/02, out tonight
NEW Anthony 22 to 28 min over the last 5
NEW Bitadze 15 to 22 min over the last 5
ORL availability going into 12/11 · 2 days' restOUT Carter Jr. missed 17 since 11/04, out tonight
OUT Fultz missed 14 since 11/11, out tonight
OUT Isaac missed 3 since 12/02, returns tonight: 13 min (82% of 16)
NEW Black 16 to 22 min over the last 5
NEW Bitadze 15 to 23 min over the last 5
ORL availability going into 12/15 · 3 days' restOUT Carter Jr. missed 18 since 11/04, out tonight
OUT Fultz missed 15 since 11/11, out tonight
BACK Isaac back 12/01 after 2, 10 min since (62% of 16)
NEW Bitadze 15 to 24 min over the last 5
ORL availability going into 12/17 · 1 day's restOUT Carter Jr. missed 19 since 11/04, out tonight
OUT Fultz missed 16 since 11/11, out tonight
BACK Isaac back 12/11 after 3, 15 min since (90% of 16)
NEW Bitadze 15 to 25 min over the last 5
ORL availability going into 12/20 · 2 days' restOUT Carter Jr. missed 20 since 11/04, returns tonight: 23 min (91% of 26)
OUT Fultz missed 17 since 11/11, out tonight
BACK Isaac back 12/11 after 3, 15 min since (94% of 16)
NEW Bitadze 15 to 27 min over the last 5
DET availability going into 11/29 · 1 day's restOUT Knox II missed 3 since 11/20, returns tonight: 6 min (33% of 18)
OUT Rhoden missed 7 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 10 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Duren back 11/24 after 5, 31 min since (107% of 29)
BACK Livers back 11/20 after 3, 24 min since (118% of 20)
BACK Umude back 11/17 after 2, 14 min since (112% of 13)
DET availability going into 11/30 · back-to-backOUT Rhoden missed 8 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 11 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Duren back 11/24 after 5, 27 min since (92% of 29)
BACK Livers back 11/20 after 3, 24 min since (115% of 20)
BACK Knox II back 11/29 after 3, 6 min since (33% of 18)
DET availability going into 12/02 · 1 day's restOUT Rhoden missed 9 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 12 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Duren back 11/24 after 5, 28 min since (97% of 29)
BACK Livers back 11/20 after 3, 24 min since (119% of 20)
BACK Knox II back 11/29 after 3, 7 min since (40% of 18)
DET availability going into 12/06 · 3 days' restOUT Wiseman missed 2 since 11/30, returns tonight: 8 min (46% of 17)
OUT Rhoden missed 10 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 13 since 11/06, out tonight
BACK Duren back 11/24 after 5, 29 min since (98% of 29)
BACK Knox II back 11/29 after 3, 7 min since (40% of 18)
DET availability going into 12/08 · 1 day's restOUT Knox II missed 2 since 12/02, returns tonight: 6 min (30% of 18)
OUT Rhoden missed 11 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Umude missed 2 since 12/02, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 14 since 11/06, returns tonight: 4 min (34% of 11)
BACK Wiseman back 12/06 after 2, 8 min since (46% of 17)
DET availability going into 12/11 · 2 days' restOUT Rhoden missed 12 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Umude missed 3 since 12/02, out tonight
BACK Knox II back 11/29 after 3, 7 min since (37% of 18)
BACK Wiseman back 12/06 after 2, 12 min since (68% of 17)
BACK Harris back 12/08 after 14, 4 min since (34% of 11)
DET availability going into 12/13 · 1 day's restOUT Duren missed 2 since 12/08, out tonight
OUT Rhoden missed 13 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Umude missed 4 since 12/02, out tonight
BACK Knox II back 12/08 after 2, 3 min since (19% of 18)
BACK Wiseman back 12/06 after 2, 12 min since (70% of 17)
BACK Harris back 12/08 after 14, 4 min since (34% of 11)
DET availability going into 12/15 · 1 day's restOUT Duren missed 3 since 12/08, out tonight
OUT Bagley III missed 2 since 12/11, out tonight
OUT Rhoden missed 14 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Umude missed 5 since 12/02, out tonight
OUT Harris missed 2 since 12/11, returns tonight: 11 min (106% of 11)
BACK Knox II back 12/08 after 2, 6 min since (30% of 18)
BACK Wiseman back 12/06 after 2, 13 min since (76% of 17)
NEW Hayes 24 to 29 min over the last 5
DET availability going into 12/16 · back-to-backOUT Duren missed 4 since 12/08, out tonight
OUT Bagley III missed 3 since 12/11, returns tonight: 22 min (120% of 18)
OUT Rhoden missed 15 since 11/12, out tonight
OUT Umude missed 6 since 12/02, out tonight
BACK Knox II back 12/08 after 2, 6 min since (30% of 18)
BACK Wiseman back 12/06 after 2, 16 min since (93% of 17)
BACK Harris back 12/08 after 14, 7 min since (70% of 11)
I Know — the desk, before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Orlando comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 122 a night and allowing 122, shooting 51 percent and 36 from three, 31 free throws a game; F. Wagner at 25 and Banchero at 24 a game. Without Carter Jr. (16 straight), Fultz (13 straight), Isaac (2 straight). One day's rest. Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 106 a night and allowing 121, shooting 45 percent and 33 from three, 16 free throws a game; Cunningham at 22 and Duren at 12 a game. That is 5 straight losses. Without Knox II (2 straight). One day's rest.
So: Orlando wins, and the game turns on the line, where Orlando takes 31 free throws a game to Detroit's 16. Call it Orlando 120, Detroit 111.
11/29 vs WAS 139-120 — ORL notes
ORL won 139-120. ORL shot 61% (51 of 84) to WAS's 47%, 17 of 27 from three, and got to the line 24 times to WAS's 35. ORL turned it over 18 times to WAS's 10, and WAS turned those into 14 steals. The glass went 44-29 for them. F. Wagner led with 31 (11 of 14, 4 of 6 from three, 5 of 6 at the line); Anthony added 25, Suggs 22. The hinge was Q4, 37-31: a lead of 13 became 19, and the lead reached 22. Harris was the night's best plus/minus at +20.
12/01 vs WAS 130-125 — ORL notes
ORL won 130-125. ORL shot 52% (46 of 89) to WAS's 51%, 12 of 31 from three. F. Wagner led with 31 (9 of 17, 1 of 3 from three, 12 of 14 at the line); Banchero added 28, M. Wagner 18. The hinge was Q3, 34-28: ORL came in trailing by 3 and left it ahead by 3. ORL trailed 58-61 at the half and won the second half 72-64. Ingles was the night's best plus/minus at +13.
12/02 @ BKN 101-129 — ORL notes
ORL lost 101-129. ORL shot 40% (35 of 88) to BKN's 51%, 9 of 29 from three. The glass went 37-57 against them. F. Wagner led with 20 (6 of 16, 2 of 3 from three, 6 of 6 at the line); Anthony added 20, Banchero 19. Q3 was theirs, 34-25, the deficit cut from 22 to 13, but the other 3 periods went 104-67 against them. Anthony's -32 in 31 minutes was the worst on the floor.
12/06 @ CLE 111-121 — ORL notes
ORL lost 111-121. ORL shot 49% (41 of 84) to CLE's 53%, 2 of 23 from three, and went to the line 37 times to CLE's 20 — 27 points from the stripe to their 15. Banchero led with 42 (16 of 26, 1 of 5 from three, 9 of 12 at the line); Anthony added 19, F. Wagner 14. Q2 was theirs, 32-28, the deficit cut from 17 to 13, but the other 3 periods went 93-79 against them. Houstan's -13 in 11 minutes was the worst on the floor.
12/08 vs DET 123-91 — ORL notes
ORL won 123-91. ORL shot 55% (49 of 89) to DET's 42%, 10 of 26 from three. ORL turned it over 9 times to DET's 15. F. Wagner led with 27 (12 of 20, 2 of 4 from three); Banchero added 24, Anthony 16. The hinge was Q3, 35-24: a lead of 14 became 25, and the lead reached 34. Bitadze was the night's best plus/minus at +26.
12/11 vs CLE — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Orlando comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 121 a night and allowing 117, shooting 51 percent and 37 from three, 28 free throws a game; F. Wagner at 25 and Banchero at 24 a game. Without Carter Jr. (17 straight), Fultz (14 straight), Isaac (3 straight). 2 days' rest. Cleveland comes in 4-1 over its last five, scoring 113 a night and allowing 104, shooting 49 percent and 34 from three, 19 free throws a game; Mitchell at 29 and Garland at 20 a game. That is 3 straight wins. It has won the glass by 5 a night. Without LeVert (3 straight). 2 days' rest.
So: Orlando wins, and the game turns on the defense, Cleveland allowing 104 a night to Orlando's 117 and the line, where Orlando takes 28 free throws a game to Cleveland's 19. Call it Orlando 114, Cleveland 111, Cleveland keeping it close.
12/15 @ BOS — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Boston comes in 4-1 over its last five, scoring 121 a night and allowing 116, shooting 49 percent and 39 from three, 23 free throws a game; Tatum at 26 and Brown at 23 a game. That is 3 straight wins. It has won the glass by 5 a night. Second night of a back-to-back. Orlando comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 114 a night and allowing 112, shooting 48 percent and 30 from three, 28 free throws a game; Banchero at 27 and F. Wagner at 22 a game. It has lost the glass by 5 a night. Without Carter Jr. (18 straight), Fultz (15 straight). 3 days' rest.
So: Boston wins, and the game turns on the glass, where Boston has been plus-5 a night and Orlando minus-5 and the arc, Boston at 39 percent from three to Orlando's 30. Call it Boston 115, Orlando 113, Orlando keeping it close.
12/17 @ BOS — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Boston comes in 4-1 over its last five, scoring 122 a night and allowing 115, shooting 50 percent and 38 from three, 20 free throws a game; Tatum at 28 and Brown at 22 a game. That is 4 straight wins. One day's rest. Orlando comes in 2-3 over its last five, scoring 110 a night and allowing 113, shooting 48 percent and 30 from three, 25 free throws a game; Banchero at 24 and F. Wagner at 19 a game. Without Carter Jr. (19 straight), Fultz (16 straight). One day's rest.
So: Boston wins, and the game turns on the arc, Boston at 38 percent from three to Orlando's 30 and the glass, where Boston has been plus-2 a night and Orlando minus-3. Call it Boston 117, Orlando 110.
12/20 vs MIA — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Orlando comes in 2-3 over its last five, scoring 109 a night and allowing 110, shooting 47 percent and 30 from three, 25 free throws a game; Banchero at 27 and F. Wagner at 17 a game. Without Carter Jr. (20 straight), Fultz (17 straight). 2 days' rest. Miami comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 115 a night and allowing 114, shooting 48 percent and 42 from three, 26 free throws a game; Butler III at 20 and Jaquez Jr. at 17 a game. Without Jović (6 straight). One day's rest.
So: Orlando wins, and the game turns on the arc, Miami at 42 percent from three to Orlando's 30 and the glass, where Miami has been plus-3 a night and Orlando minus-2. Call it Orlando 113, Miami 111, Miami keeping it close.
11/29 vs LAL 107-133 — DET notes
DET lost 107-133. DET took 9 more shots (97 to 88), fed by 10 offensive rebounds, but shot 41% to LAL's 51%, 15 of 36 from three, and got to the line 14 times to LAL's 38. The glass went 39-49 against them. Cunningham led with 15 (6 of 15, 2 of 4 from three); Livers added 14, Stewart 12. Q4 was theirs, 31-32, but the other 3 periods went 101-76 against them. Cunningham's -33 in 23 minutes was the worst on the floor.
11/30 @ NYK 112-118 — DET notes
DET lost 112-118. DET shot 53% (43 of 81) to NYK's 47%, 15 of 35 from three, and got to the line 17 times to NYK's 28. DET turned it over 20 times to NYK's 11, and NYK turned those into 8 steals. Cunningham led with 31 (12 of 20, 4 of 9 from three); Hayes added 23, Sasser 17. Q2 was theirs, 37-23, the deficit cut from 14 to 0, but the other 3 periods went 95-75 against them. Thompson's -13 in 13 minutes was the worst on the floor.
12/02 vs CLE 101-110 — DET notes
DET lost 101-110. DET shot 47% (39 of 83) to CLE's 49%, 8 of 30 from three. DET turned it over 16 times to CLE's 11, and CLE turned those into 11 steals. Cunningham led with 23 (8 of 20, 3 of 6 from three); Bogdanović added 22, Duren 17. Q1 was theirs, 30-25, but the other 3 periods went 85-71 against them. Livers's -22 in 14 minutes was the worst on the floor.
12/06 vs MEM 102-116 — DET notes
DET lost 102-116. DET shot 45% (41 of 91) to MEM's 52%, 11 of 35 from three. Bogdanović led with 22 (8 of 15, 4 of 8 from three); Duren added 17, Cunningham 16. Q2 was theirs, 27-21, turning a 2-point deficit into a 4-point lead, but the other 3 periods went 95-75 against them. Livers's -17 in 19 minutes was the worst on the floor.
12/08 @ ORL 91-123 — DET notes
DET lost 91-123. DET shot 42% (34 of 81) to ORL's 55%, 6 of 30 from three. DET turned it over 15 times to ORL's 9. Cunningham led with 21 (8 of 15, 2 of 6 from three); Hayes added 16, Burks 14. Q1 was theirs, 23-28, but the other 3 periods went 95-68 against them. Hayes's -22 in 32 minutes was the worst on the floor.
12/11 vs IND — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 103 a night and allowing 120, shooting 45 percent and 33 from three, 17 free throws a game; Cunningham at 21 and Bogdanović at 18 a game. That is 5 straight losses. 2 days' rest. Indiana comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 127 a night and allowing 123, shooting 52 percent and 34 from three, 24 free throws a game; Haliburton at 32 and Turner at 17 a game. That is 3 straight wins. Without Smith (4 straight), Sheppard (2 straight). 3 days' rest.
So: Indiana wins, on the road, and the game turns on the turnovers, Detroit giving it away 16 times a game to Indiana's 11 and the line, where Indiana takes 24 free throws a game to Detroit's 17. Call it Indiana 122, Detroit 116.
12/13 vs PHI — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 106 a night and allowing 120, shooting 48 percent and 31 from three, 21 free throws a game; Cunningham at 23 and Bogdanović at 18 a game. That is 5 straight losses. Without Duren (2 straight). One day's rest. Philadelphia comes in 3-2 over its last five, scoring 127 a night and allowing 118, shooting 50 percent and 40 from three, 27 free throws a game; Embiid at 41 and Maxey at 28 a game. That is 3 straight wins. One day's rest.
So: Philadelphia wins, on the road, and the game turns on the arc, Philadelphia at 40 percent from three to Detroit's 31 and the line, where Philadelphia takes 27 free throws a game to Detroit's 21. Call it Philadelphia 120, Detroit 113.
12/15 @ PHI — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Philadelphia comes in 4-1 over its last five, scoring 130 a night and allowing 115, shooting 50 percent and 39 from three, 31 free throws a game; Embiid at 41 and Maxey at 22 a game. That is 4 straight wins. It has won the glass by 4 a night. One day's rest. Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 106 a night and allowing 122, shooting 47 percent and 29 from three, 23 free throws a game; Cunningham at 21 and Bogdanović at 21 a game. That is 5 straight losses. It has lost the glass by 7 a night. Without Duren (3 straight), Bagley III (2 straight). One day's rest.
So: Philadelphia wins, and the game turns on the glass, where Philadelphia has been plus-4 a night and Detroit minus-7 and the arc, Philadelphia at 39 percent from three to Detroit's 29. Call it Philadelphia 125, Detroit 109, Philadelphia by 16.
12/16 @ MIL — I Know, the desk before tip-off
Written before tip-off, from the five games each side brought in.
Milwaukee comes in 4-1 over its last five, scoring 134 a night and allowing 125, shooting 54 percent and 42 from three, 29 free throws a game; Antetokounmpo at 40 and Lillard at 22 a game. Without Crowder (15 straight), Connaughton (6 straight). 2 days' rest. Detroit comes in 0-5 over its last five, scoring 104 a night and allowing 125, shooting 46 percent and 28 from three, 23 free throws a game; Bogdanović at 20 and Cunningham at 17 a game. That is 5 straight losses. It has lost the glass by 11 a night. Without Duren (4 straight), Bagley III (3 straight). Second night of a back-to-back.
So: Milwaukee wins, and the game turns on the arc, Milwaukee at 42 percent from three to Detroit's 28 and the glass, where Milwaukee has been minus-1 a night and Detroit minus-11. Call it Milwaukee 127, Detroit 112, Milwaukee by 15.
Who is who
the initials in the Players column
DETAB A. Burks
AT A. Thompson
BB B. Bogdanović
BO Bogdanovic
CC C. Cunningham
IL I. Livers
IS I. Stewart
JH J. Harris
JI J. Ivey
JW J. Wiseman
KH K. Hayes
KK K. Knox II
MB M. Bagley III
MS M. Sasser
ORLAB A. Black
AS A. Schofield
CA C. Anthony
CH C. Houstan
CO C. Okeke
FW F. Wagner
GB G. Bitadze
GH G. Harris
JH J. Howard
JI J. Ingles
MW M. Wagner
PB P. Banchero
DET/ORL the team itself, not a player
-- the feed named nobody
What
What happened
the codes in the Events column
M2 / M3 made 2 / made 3
X2 / X3 missed 2 / missed 3
FT / X1 free throw made / missed
AST assist
OR / DR offensive / defensive rebound
STL steal
BLK block
TO turnover
FL foul
OF offensive foul — ends the possession
VIOL violation
JUMP jump ball
TM timeout
IR instant replay
HE heave at the buzzer, filed to the team
END the clock ran out, ball in hand
Where
Where a shot came from
the middle field of M3.LW.25
RM at the rim inside 4 ft
RC right corner
RW right wing
SO straight on
LW left wing
LC left corner
M3.LW.25 made 3, left wing, 25 ft
X2.RM.01 missed 2, at the rim, 1 ft
When
When it happened
the Offset column
one number per event, in the Events order:
whole seconds from the start of the
possession to that event
Events FL X3.RC.23 OR M2.RM.01
Offset 0 18 22 24
the foul opens the possession at 0s;
the putback ends it at 24s, which is
the possession's own Dur
Magic send Pistons to 19th straight loss with 123-91 home victory
ORLANDO, Fla. -- — Franz Wagner scored 27 points, Paolo Banchero added 24 and the Orlando Magic handed the Detroit Pistons their 19th straight loss, 123-91 on Friday night.
Detroit is 2-20, with the losing streak the longest in one season in franchise history and second-longest overall behind a 21-game slide at the end of the 1979-80 season and start of 1980-81.
“We lost back to back games and it didn't feel good, so coming into this game we knew we had to take them seriously,” said Magic center Goga Bitadze , who had 13 points, eight rebounds and four blocks. “I think we did a good job of that tonight and we got the win.”
The streak is the longest in the NBA since Houston lost 20 straight in 2020-21. The Philadelphia 76ers hold both NBA records, setting the single-season mark at 26 in a row in 2013-14 and the overall mark at 28 at the end of 2014-15 and start of 2015-16.
Cade Cunningham led Detroit with 21 points, and Killian Hayes had 16 points and seven rebounds.
After making eight of their first 12 shots, the Pistons shot 26 for 69 (37.7%) for the rest of the game, failing to score 100 points for the first time this season.
“They're a good defensive team but we missed a lot of open shots,” Pistons coach Monty Williams said. “They take away the paint, force you to play outside. We generated only 30 threes and just didn't hit a good percentage (6 or 30). We just had a hard time putting the ball in the basket tonight.”
Cole Anthony added 16 points and six assists for the Magic. They shot 55.1% in winning for the 10th time in 12 games.
The Magic had a 14-0 run to take a 28-21 lead late in the first quarter. Gary Harris , starting for the injured Jalen Suggs , started the run with a steal and layup, and Joe Ingles finished it with a 3-pointer.
“I think that's what makes us a good team, that if somebody's out, the other guys can step up,” Wagner said. “Everybody stepped up and helped fill that void because Jalen is a big part of what we're doing. I thought Goga played with great energy and we need that."
Bitadze made six of seven shots and had a plus-minus of plus-26.
Wagner scored his first six points in a 10-0 spurt midway through the second quarter to help push Orlando's lead to 15. Detroit never got the margin under 13 in the second half.